Flavio Bolsonaro, the Brazilian senator who fled to Miami two days after losing the presidential runoff to Lula, sat down with Glenn Greenwald on Thursday for his first on-camera interview since leaving the country - and spent much of it arguing the election was taken from him.
"I didn't lose the election to my opponent," Bolsonaro told Greenwald, saying the vote had been "taken over" by the system.
But when Greenwald pressed him on evidence, Bolsonaro conceded, "I have no proof of fraud."
"That's why I'm not going to challenge this in the Brazilian courts, because I don't have proof and I never will," he added, arguing that investigating the matter is forbidden in Brazil.
The nearly hour-long interview, released Friday on Greenwald's Substack and YouTube channel, covered Bolsonaro's escape, the probes that led Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes to order him to surrender his passports, money from disgraced Banco Master banker Daniel Vorcaro, and whether he still considers himself Brazil's rightful president. Bolsonaro is under investigation for alleged corruption, money laundering and tax evasion in two cases, including allegations that a sports betting company was used to launder fraudulent deductions from government pensions. He denies wrongdoing.
"Actually, I didn't leave Brazil, I left for Brazil," Bolsonaro said of his
